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Apr 4, 2011 22:50:09 GMT -5
Post by hussker on Apr 4, 2011 22:50:09 GMT -5
Welll ive decided that since i love my new benelli so much im going to sell my Winchester super x3 and put the money towards another benelli. Problem is I need to get the X3 running like it should. As far as looks and cycling rounds this gun is almost flawless. BUT when the bolt is locked in the forward position it is a PAIN to pull it back. Once I get it pulled back just a hair it goes back alright but to get it moving really sucks. Anyway, from what ive found online its not uncommon for the recoil spring, tube, and plunger to fail in these so i think im going to start there. Ive cycled the bolt with with the link disconnected from the plunger and moves fine so im hoping this is the problem. So gonna try to find some parts somewhere, get em ordered and installed, and get this thing sold. we'll see how it goes i guess.
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Post by passinthru on Apr 5, 2011 4:45:04 GMT -5
I have heard that those do have their problems. I had a chance to buy a used Benelli a week ago and didnt buy it. Now i wish i would have after seeing and hearing how well u like yours.
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Post by hussker on Apr 5, 2011 6:05:05 GMT -5
I have heard that those do have their problems. I had a chance to buy a used Benelli a week ago and didnt buy it. Now i wish i would have after seeing and hearing how well u like yours. I held out as long as I could before I bought mine. But now that I have I wish I would have bought it sooner. It seems to shoulder and fit me much better wich really showed during a couple rounds of trap this last weekend. |
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Apr 5, 2011 19:23:00 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 5, 2011 19:23:00 GMT -5
My advice, for what its worth. Strip the SX3 down as best you can and clean it like you have never cleaned it before. Lightly lubricate with CLP as you reassemble. See how it behaves then. If it functions properly (no failure to feed, failure to eject, failure to fire, etc.) you might be chasing demons for no good reason. Let the new owner worry about it, if they want to.
My guess is that you will notice a difference after a detailed strip down and heavy duty cleaning. If not, you may notice something out of spec, or incorrectly assembled.
If you are determined to chase it down, start with new springs. But again, I would say to start with a darn good scrubbing and get all of the carbon/grit/dirt/unburnt powder out of the action and a light coat of CLP.
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Post by hussker on Apr 6, 2011 8:07:23 GMT -5
I got it tore down and where the plunger goes into the spring tube there is quite a bit of play, as in i can push the end of the plunger up and down maybe 1/4" and it is binding up, cant even push it in with my finger if its even slightly off center. Problem is to get the spring and plunger out of the tube I have to figure out how to remove the worlds TIGHTEST roll pin from the end of it. Im hoping once I do get it out though that the problem will be obvious.
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Post by JD on Apr 6, 2011 9:22:34 GMT -5
When you say the plunger that goes into the spring tube, are you referring to the magazine follower into the magazine tube, or the gas piston/piston sleeve assembly? If it is the follower/spring, you remove it from the other end. You remove the magazine cap like you would remove the limiter plug and pull out the spring. Once the spring is removed, you can remove the follower. The follower may have been installed backwards, that can cause it to stick. My wife's 1100 came from the factory with the follower installed backwards, and it would stick something fierce. In case you do not have the manual, here it is. It explains the removal of the mag spring/plug and shows proper schematics. media.winchesterguns.com/pdf/om/06_013_sx3.pdf |
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Apr 6, 2011 11:54:21 GMT -5
Post by hussker on Apr 6, 2011 11:54:21 GMT -5
Its actually the action spring plunger that the bolt rides back on during cycle. The tube goes back into the stock and the plunger sticks out of that into the reciever. Receiver with action spring tube coming out the rear end.  Im hoping the rear end of that plunger is messed up or the spring broke. Something simple and easy to replace. I havent gotten that roll pin to budge though. Gonna take the work of vice and punch I think. The roll pin on the rear end of the action spring tube that i need to get out to remove the spring and plunger.  This is from the bottom of the reciever, stock end to the left, you can see the round plunger coming in. This is what has the play in it and is binding up. 
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Apr 6, 2011 18:55:00 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 6, 2011 18:55:00 GMT -5
I see, makes a lot more sense now. Is it possible that the roll pin will only drift out one direction? That got me once on an old browning. The pin was fatter on one end than the other. Just a thought.
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Apr 6, 2011 19:04:52 GMT -5
Post by hussker on Apr 6, 2011 19:04:52 GMT -5
I see, makes a lot more sense now. Is it possible that the roll pin will only drift out one direction? That got me once on an old browning. The pin was fatter on one end than the other. Just a thought. Man ive never seen that before. I hope thats not the case because both ends are pretty beat up at this point. Thanks for the tip. Probably going to get after it this weekend. On the plus side if the problem is the spring or plunger I found the parts for less than $30 for both. |
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Apr 6, 2011 20:33:55 GMT -5
Post by allhunter on Apr 6, 2011 20:33:55 GMT -5
This is why everyone should buy benelli's. breaks down into 5 peices, no problems, just plain awsome. someday when I have more money ill buy a couple more but for now the orginal SBE will have to do me good. its been my baby for i think 6 years now.
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Post by JD on Apr 7, 2011 9:03:15 GMT -5
This is why everyone should buy benelli's. breaks down into 5 peices, no problems, just plain awsome. someday when I have more money ill buy a couple more but for now the orginal SBE will have to do me good. its been my baby for i think 6 years now. You do realize that the Benelli has an almost identical action tube, right? And for breaking down into 5 pieces, that is five component groups. Each group can be comprised of many parts. The action tube on the Benelli has like 12 parts in it. If I remember right, the SBE has roughly 90 individual parts. |
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Post by JD on Apr 7, 2011 9:04:26 GMT -5
I did some digging around, looks like the pin is larger on the outside than the diameter of the hole. It can be removed, but might require some patient work.
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Apr 7, 2011 14:35:50 GMT -5
Post by hussker on Apr 7, 2011 14:35:50 GMT -5
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Apr 7, 2011 15:18:03 GMT -5
Post by allhunter on Apr 7, 2011 15:18:03 GMT -5
This is why everyone should buy benelli's. breaks down into 5 peices, no problems, just plain awsome. someday when I have more money ill buy a couple more but for now the orginal SBE will have to do me good. its been my baby for i think 6 years now. You do realize that the Benelli has an almost identical action tube, right? And for breaking down into 5 pieces, that is five component groups. Each group can be comprised of many parts. The action tube on the Benelli has like 12 parts in it. If I remember right, the SBE has roughly 90 individual parts. Haha ya ik i just love throwing in my very unbiased opinion lol |
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Apr 7, 2011 16:30:52 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 7, 2011 16:30:52 GMT -5
My gut says, it was designed to never come out on accident. The fact that an owner could not remove it never came into the design. Sad to say, but that is where we are at. 99% of gun owners would NEVER attempt a full disassembly, even if they could. People have become too reliant on others, and manufactures rely on lawyers too much. Sad, but true. Do a google search on the removal. There were a couple informative posts on shotgunworld. |
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Apr 7, 2011 16:32:04 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 7, 2011 16:32:04 GMT -5
You do realize that the Benelli has an almost identical action tube, right? And for breaking down into 5 pieces, that is five component groups. Each group can be comprised of many parts. The action tube on the Benelli has like 12 parts in it. If I remember right, the SBE has roughly 90 individual parts. Haha ya ik i just love throwing in my very unbiased opinion lol Unbiased? I think I need to go ahead and get you that dictionary. LOL |
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Apr 7, 2011 17:48:34 GMT -5
Post by allhunter on Apr 7, 2011 17:48:34 GMT -5
Haha ya ik i just love throwing in my very unbiased opinion lol Unbiased? I think I need to go ahead and get you that dictionary. LOL haha again it was another joke just tryin to make ya crack a smile JD lol |
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Apr 7, 2011 21:09:52 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 7, 2011 21:09:52 GMT -5
I know you were joking, so was I. Hence the LOL at the end. LOL
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Apr 10, 2011 23:52:52 GMT -5
Post by hussker on Apr 10, 2011 23:52:52 GMT -5
Finally got the stupid roll pin out..turns out there was quite a bit of crap built up in the spring tube. Cleaned the hell our of it, put it back together and it cycles fine!! Pretty happy I dont have to order parts. Couldnt believe how much residue had built up in that tube. Now to put the whole thing back together and sell her off for a down payment on Benelli #2!!!!
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Apr 11, 2011 8:12:15 GMT -5
Post by JD on Apr 11, 2011 8:12:15 GMT -5
Glad you got it disassembled, and it is functioning properly. A deep, thorough cleaning can do absolute wonders. I bought a Marlin model 60 22lr once for $50 because it was "junk", on a hunch. I swear I removed 5 pounds of lead and carbon from it. LOL Ran Like a top after that.
Oh, and BTW. I will now not only be buying my First Benelli, but another as well. My wife absolutely fell in love with the Montefeltro Compact 20ga. LOL
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